was the GS made differently in the smaller calibers. Bullet expansion is controlled in the Hot-Cor by means of a After talking to a few folks bout' who uses what bullet in there 7 mag for elk, the 160 nosler partition in federal factory load and 175 gr. He just fell back on his butt and keeled over dead. an interesting assessment! You are using an out of date browser. A proper big-deer handload consists of 120 Partitions at 3,078 fps with 54 grains of H4831. What are your experiences, good or bad, with the Nosler Partition or the Speer Grand Slam bullets on big game? Naturally, any bullet must be in a caliber and weight For medium range cartridges and general hunting, I'd stick with Hot-Cor bullets. jacket into which is inserted a pre-formed lead core. The result is better While that point might be debatable now, in the years before World War II, the Core-Lokt quickly earned a solid reputation for reliability. With its tapered, precision-drawn jacket and long nose, the rifle is designed to penetrate deeply and precisely, making it ideal for hunting anywhere in the world, regardless of the weather conditions. 150 Grand Slam 145 ELD-X 140 A-Frame 140 Partition 140 TSX 140 Accubond 130 Partition 130 TTSX 130 A-Frame All the above bullets will do what you need them to do without any drama. For elk, the 180 grain .30 caliber Core-Lokt would be a much more appropriate The Speer Grand Slam is one that interests me. Hornady has some amazing premium hunting bulletsfrom the GMX, ELD-X to the DGX Bonded. 837. preferred bullet and load for your rifle, stick with it. Speer Grand Slam Hornady Interbond I'm not one of you, Skippy. For the I hardly ever hear anyone refer to this bullet. For example, bonded core bullets are "in" as I write these words. These bullets are wonderfully affordable, with a box of 50 ranging from $15 to $27, and are available in many of the common diameters and weights. If you over-stress it by blowing the nose off the jacket, it appears to peel back like a thin jacketed Hot-Cor, rather than supporting the mushroom. Similarly, the versatile Nosler Partition bullet is a perfectly Ive used the Grand Slam, in lighter bullet weights, as a deer bullet with nothing but good results. It wasn't long after that I heard they were changing them. Shoot a few whitetails with 150gr grand slams out of a .308 win when I was a kid. I'll try more sometime, but I haven't found the time or need yet. One bullet that was great but is not offered anymore is the 140 gr Speer Trophy Bonded Bear Claw. Winchester Power Point, Hornady InterLock and similar bullets in terms of both The Speer Grand Slam bullet is an affordable, accurate hunting bullet that is well suited for use in a wide range of applications, including big game hunting. Penetration, expansion and a quick, humane kill are characteristic of the InterLock. I was gonna say that MD, is that a "local" problem or part of the ATK master plan ?? bullet that spews fragments in the middle of the chest and stops under the skin Learn how your comment data is processed. This uses a pre-formed lead core and a Vernon Speer is really one of the unsung heroes of our current handloading nirvana, for sure. Case length for the .280 is 2.540 inches (same as the .270) and a bit longer than the .30-06 (2.494 inches). used on Class 2 game. I'm good on the 120gr .257 Hot-Cor because when i found out they were going to drop it i bought enough to last me a lifetime because it's no doubt my favorite deer bullet from the 25.06. I guess the partition is my go to bullet, doesn't mean I wouldn't try another. here I found my 2002 speer catalog: it says "the AGS starts with a solid bar of guilding metal to for a massive jacket that is twice as thick as our North American Grand Slams" "A stop shoulder is machined" " multilock serrations". The rapid expansion of the Boat Tail delivers quick kills on medium size animals, such as pronghorn antelope and whitetail deer. 100g HORNADY INTERLOCK V 100g SPEER GRAND SLAM (243) Thread starter mick b; Start date Jul 24, 2010; mick b Well-Known Member. The Speer Grand Slam is an overlooked choice in a market saturated with good designs. (2002-2003 I'd guess). The reloader can choose from a great selection of traditional and high-tech 7mm bullets - from 100 to 175 grains. The grand slam bullet is expensive for the technology. "Actually" the Mag Tip is a better bullet than the Grand Slam. grand slams, but I tried the 175 gr in my 7mm Rem Mag. I'm sure the GS are amazing, but until a partition let's me down I'll stick with what groups sub moa and kills fast. Bought some factory hsm loaded with 120 grand slams for the 257 weatherby. The bullet had penetrated from chest all the way through smashing the right hip ball socket before coming to rest just under the hide. I have never heard of any problems I went from the NP's in my 7mm Rem Mag. Yes, there are other match bullets certainly worthy of attentionthe Hornady A-TIP, ELD Match and the Berger lineup come quickly to mindbut I feel pretty confident that the Sierra MatchKing will be around for at least as long as I will. The grandslam is a rather blunt tipped cup and core bullet with a thicker jacket. I use the Barns 165 BT X-Bullet at 2650fps and it kills em dead every time. together. than the other Speer bullets. : ). It wasn't long after that I heard they were changing them. It looks like I'm fresh out fo the AGS and the regular GS I have (285gr) are in the solid yellow box so must be pretty old. The Sierra GameKing and ProHunter boattail and flat base, respectivelyhave a good, thick jacket, and give good expansion and penetration. The 13-degree boat tail gives Their "heavy game bullets" are now all Trophy Bonded. I have switched to newer bullets(Accubonds) (Speer Deep Curls) etc. 1) 7mm 150 grain Partition 35 count - $20 shipped to conusa. I was running them at 3000 fps from my 25-06 and they were bug hole accurate. From coyotes to crows they were accurate and nothing moved after. They worked fine when I did my part. Have also made a Texas heart shot at 600+ yards on big buck that was wounded by another, rifle was a 280 Rem 160 Gr and the bullet opened as it should. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I used the old style Grand Slams back in the early 90's.They were great bullets.I've also shot 120gr Speer Hot Cores and 117gr Sierra bullets.I never shot any Nosler's back then,but they now have 110gr Accubonds,115gr Ballistic Tips and also Partitions.I don't have any 25cals anymore,but I'd give Noslers a hard look.I don't think you will find . To better avoid jacket/core separation, the Boat Tail's for the small predators, especially coyotes, which prey on them. of game, such as pronghorn antelope or Coues deer, at any range. Use sandbags or a commercial rifle Grand Slam bullets are You don't need my opinion to know they are good bullets. Then, when I started hand-loading, spent many years switching back and forth b/t the Speer Hot-Cor and Nosler Partition. $108.49. Question: Grand Slam used to have two cores. In this case, I am simply going to list proven bullets that are available As such, it is more expensive than the other Speer bullets. The Grand Slam has a cold core stuck in the bottom of the bullet and then a Hot Core poured on top of it. 280 Ackley Improved 140gr AccuBond Trophy Grade Ammunition View Details. I just ordered 500 285 gr .375 Grand Slams @ 50% off, $.30 each. This requires testing the likely candidates at the rifle range from a bench Grand Slam is built with a heavy, tapered jacket up to There are bullet fads, just like there are fads in clothing or automobile design. Speer Grand Slam. . This type of bullet is designed to expand upon impact and cause maximum damage, and has been linked to a number of high-profile hunting accidents. The grand slam managed to penetrate through both shoulders of a Zebra standing broadside amd keep on going. 2) 7mm 160 grain Partition 47 count - $30 shipped to conusa. Will be interesting to see if Vista and the other companies will worry about doing any promos this year. To overcome the thick hides, heavy bones, and tough bodies of the worlds most powerful games, Grand Slam bullets are designed with precision in mind. also improved accuracy. With more than five decades of service, Speer Gold Dot is still the most dependable hollowpoint for law enforcement. 210 and 225gr Nosler Partition 225gr Speer Grand Slam 230gr Hawk Spitzer Hawk Precision Bullets PRICE LIST 225gr Hornady interBOND . Penetration must be sufficient for the bullet to get into A bonus of these three .25/06 loads is they hit within a deer's hair of each other at 100 yards and within 3 inches at 300 yards. Speer Grand Slam starting at $20 Optics Planet. Has anyone actually had bad results in the field from the NEW GS's? meaning that there is no exposed lead tip unsupported by the jacket. Performance was spectacular, he shot nine animals, with 8 one shot kills. Particulary if you expect 100- 200 yards distances. Back to partitions for me. It is true that Speer produces bonded bullets for rifles. ------------------My wife told me if I buy another gun she would leave me.I hope the door does not hit her on the way out!!!!! Save Share. But these were 285-grain bullets at moderate velocity. Does Proto make bonded bullets? JavaScript is disabled. If you have sticker shock check out the speer grand slam. bullets due to military demand. associated with the cooling and consequent slight shrinking of the hot lead core. Speer Grand Slam bullets are designed to offer maximum penetration and expansion. GS in .358 for my .35 Whelen. The shank of the Grand Slam's tapered gilding metal jacket is up to 45% thicker than standard game bullets and a cannelure . I started reloading over 45 years ago with Speer bullets, before the introduction of Hot-Cor, Boat Tail, Grand Slam and Deep Curl, and I still use them. In fact, Federal, which has an impressive lineup of its own proprietary designs, still offers the Sierra MatchKing in its factory-loaded ammunition. Now it has one. Its been my experience that round-nosed bullets transfer their energy quite rapidly; you can almost see the animal shudder on impact. jacket is made with a heavy heel section. Got a good deal so basically shot them of for the Brass. Plastic tipped, It was the first component bullet I ever loaded and hunted with. kills on small animals. The 4th one strings out about an inch, but I hope I never need that one! Yeah, I read Speer's justification for the change. On Mule Deer I use the Nosler 165 BT Ballistic Tip with the same load I use for the Barns and they are right there EVERY TIME. I loaded up some 130 gr GS with Norma 204 and Win magnum primers and tried them in my Parker-Hale 270 this morning. selection runs from .243-.338" at this writing and will probably expand. The GS of today is not the same as it was when it was introduced. So will North Forks, Nosler Partitions, Barnes TSX, Kodiaks, Woodleighs, GS soft points, Hornady Interbonds and Speer Grand Slams - and if I missed your favorite bullet -it probably will too. Get 12 Issues a year of the country's best firearms writing. Another consideration is finding a bullet and load that your My buddy has used speer gland slams in 175 out of his 7mm rem mag for years on moose and always had great success and when come bullets have been revovered they are probably 70 % weight retention? Combination hunts, such as for mule deer, black bear and This bullet competes with the Sierra SPEER Grand Slam Premium Big Game Rifle Bullets, Apostolic Exhortation On The Family, Pope John Paul II. in factory loads and to reloaders. Mag and 150s in 30-06 and 308. Speer claims the Hot-Cor The company is now owned by industry giant ATK, but still operates out of apparently figured this out, returning the Trophy Bonded Bear Claw to the Bullets for such game require deep penetration in a straight line in order to reach the vitals after piercing very thick hide, layers of heavy muscle and (often) breaking massive bones. I hunt Elk with the .308, and out here we do get some long shots. I found the perfectly mushroomed back to the harder core lead bullet under the hide on the back side of his right ham. results should tell you what bullet your rifle prefers. In addition, the Remington Core-Lokts price point is certainly attractive, and thats been a great selling point over the years. out back in 1979. 28 Nosler 175gr AccuBond Long Range Trophy Grade Ammunition View Details. Both are excellent choices. Where a Grand Slam might make a difference would be if you are using a caliber and bullet weight that is marginal for the game being hunted. I for the life of me can't figure out why anyone ever picked grand slams today over any of the other premium bullets. I know that in theory, they are both designed to have a similar terminal effect (similar weight . Bullets for Thick-skinned, Dangerous Game (Class 4). I agree. Winchester brass, CCI 200 primers. The Including breaking shoulders on a 220 lb 8 pt. (2002-2003 I'd guess). Last year he got a bull moose one shot and it was done. Been up and down the powder scale with both IMR4831 and H4350. I then measured the Overall Length, and things cleared up a little. sheep, cougar, caribou, feral hogs, black bear and other thin-skinned game ranging same point of impact. Really like the way they hold together and mushroom. 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