We will continue to update this list as new rifles are reviewed and additional data becomes available. My most accurateand one I still haveis a Sako L46. The best groups resulted from 18 grains of N133 (.66 inch at 3,822 fps, including very low extreme velocity spreads), a 19 grain maximum load of IMR-8308 XBR (.73-inch at 3,874 fps) and 16 grains of LT-30 (.75 inch at 3,622 fps). While shooting the Cooper Model 21, I experimented a great deal with bullet jump (or lack of it), and the Berger 30-grain bullet shot best when seated 0.005 inch into the rifling. As with any cartridge, whenever changing to a new lot of powder, its always best to load a few rounds at lower charge weights and chronograph them to check velocity against that of your existing load. Ben Voss FN Product Manager talks about the new FN SCAR 15P ultra-compact rifle-caliber pistol at SHOT Show 2023. The .17 caliber rimfire cartridges include the .17 M2, .17 HMR and .17 WSM. When both are loaded to maximum chamber pressures and fired in barrels of the same length, the Ackley cartridge is about 100 fps faster. The new 9mm suppressor can mount easily to any pistol barrel threaded x28 inches and doesn't compromise on sound suppression, gas blowback or recoil. With the case shoulder bumped back and bullets reseated, it averaged 0.64 inch for five, five-shot groups at 100 yards. The .17 Fireball includes such mild recoil that the shooter gets to watch all the action through the scope. When a new cartridge is introduced, its origins can often be traced to a cartridge P.O. There were certainly some exceptional groups involved, but the rifle proved more finicky than I anticipated. Some 6mm Rem AI shooters prefer to shoot the 87gr V-Max from a 10-twist barrel.The 6mm Rem AI set up with a 10-twist barrel to shoot the 87gr V-Max is about the ultimate long-range varmint caliber one could ever . Seventeen-caliber rifles are just a little bit magic. All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. I may just have to try a few of those with the 8208 powder as well. If i had a bunch of those bullets i would try IMR 4320. I can consistently keep them under an inch with this load. Muzzle velocity was 3,488 fps at a chamber pressure of 46,400 psi. | But like most rifles in 22 Hornet, the barrels of those in 218 Bee have a rifling twist of 1:16 inches, which is not quick enough to stabilize many of the bullets listed for this cartridge in various reloading manuals. It took Remington until 2008 to adopt the cartridge. Most folks think that Gaston Glock introduced pistols with plastic . Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. <oneshot>. I had enough primed cases left over for exactly four-shot strings, and one does not waste primers these days. If the rifles are compared based on the average group size achieved with their favored brand of ammo the results are as follows. The same charge with 20-grain V-MAXes started out with an even tighter group, but I flipped out the bullet from the fourth shot, which enlarged the group to 1.09 inches at 100 yards. load in a winchester mod. The plastic tip increases ballistic coefficients for flatter long-range trajectories and initiates dismantling impacts on small varmints. This is a consummate varmint rifle, including a long, heavy barrel for maximum velocity and minimal warming between shots, with molded synthetic stock and forearm vents to promote barrel cooling. We have found the accuracy potential of all three cartridges to be excellent and essentially the same. CFE BLKs top velocity was 4,532 fps with this bullet using 18 grains of powder, but with poor accuracy. Bullet weights from 15.5 to 25 grains were tested. The first one was the .17 Hornet, closely followed by the .17 Bee and later by the .17/222.. ONeil of OKH fame. Patches pushed through the bore came out with the black gunk of powder fouling but no blue color to indicate jacket fouling. A sleeper that works very well is W760 and its stablemate H414. As mentioned, the .17 was first brought to market with a 25-grain Power Lokt Hollow Point. It is a great powder for cartridges from the .17 Remington Fireball to the .22-250 Remington. vs 9.3x62 Cartridge Clash, 7 Top .17 HMR (Hornady Magnum Rimfire) Rifles, How Rifle-Shot Recoil Affects Scopes, Rings and Bases, Ruger No. Hornady dies were used to handload cartridges for the .17 Hornet. My old pet load for my 17 BDL was with IMR 4320 with 25 Berger Match HP. Like some other spherical powders, Hodgdon CFE BLK performs best in cartridge case capacity/bullet weight combinations that allow 90 to 100 percent load density. can also be quite accurate. * We tested two different Marlin Model 917VS and Ruger K77/17VMBBZ rifles. In 1950, Remington introduced the .222 loaded in a completely unique case based on no other. He admitted to being stuck in his ways and did very little changing. The CCI A17 load has a catalog MV of 2650 fps and chronographed between 2775 and 2809 fps from our test rifles. It made a huge difference for me on my group size. I'm watching this thread because I just got my 17 rem upper. When dropped from a powder measure, an 18.0-grain charge fills a Winchester case almost to the brim, so when applied to those two bullet weights only, the word maximum indicates that 18.0 grains is the maximum amount of CFE BLK the case will hold. In addition to delivering much lower velocity spreads, accuracy was better with IMR 4198 and H335. The round closely resembles the .17 Mach IV, created by wildcatter Vern OBrien in the 1960s. This little gem was introduced originally by Remington in 1971, though similar wildcats had undoubtedly existed for many years prior. Give a Gift If striking a bone on impact they will absolutely detonatenot only potentially ruining a valuable hide, but also creating a superficial wound that is not immediately lethal and will leave animals to suffersomething all hunters try to avoid. The new big bore pistols feature industry-first capacity, with a standard 15-round capacity and 22+1 rounds of 10mm or 18+1 rounds of .45 ACP from the extended magazines. Small powder charges result in cleaner shooting than the .17 Remington though all .17-caliber cartridges require frequent barrel cleaning to assure continued accuracy. A form die set is required if .221 Fireball cases are used, but those lucky enough to find Remington .17 Fireball brass can simply run them through a .17 Mach IV full-length sizing die, add primer, powder and bullet, and head for the varmint fields. I prefer 20-grain bullets in the .17 Hornets because they can be pushed much faster than 25-grain bullets. Springfield Armory Hellion 5.56 NATO Bullpup Rifle: Tested, SIG Sauer P322 .22 Rimfire Pistol: Full Review. The Judge has been promoted! : 2.150" Powder: 24.1 gr 25.9 gr Vel. This bullet was good in its day and set the tone for the .17s reputation as an excellent pelt caliber. Joined: Dec 2015. Norma 200, 55gr. About the same time, Hornady introduced its version of the 25-grain HPand this was (and is) an excellent bullet, though sadly it appears to be out of production at the moment. Although overall cartridge length is restricted to about 1.950 inches, there is still more than enough room to seat bullets close to the rifling should doing so be necessary or desired. The .17 Hornets tiny bullets and a small case capacity mean velocities vary considerably with a slight change in powder weight. When charging cases, use care. The new Sako Finnlight II sports an innovative stock and Cerakote metal paired with the terrific 85 action. It simply is the 221 Remington Fireball necked down to 17 caliber, using a 30-degree shoulder. My midway order just showed up with a box of the 20gr noslers and 25gr hornady hp. The introduction of LilGun by Hodgdon in 1999 was one of the best things to happen to the 221 Fireball, and I was curious to see how slower-burning CFE BLK would stack up against it. | In 1970, OBrien sold his company to Harrington & Richardson, which renamed the rifle the Model 317 Ultra Wildcat. It is a very small bore, very high-pressure round and as such, it fouls just like a similar, larger cartridge (think .22/250 or .220 Swifteven the .204 Ruger). Russ, thought I would hijack your thread to report that my 17 Rem. Today's favorites are the .17 HMR and the .17 Remington. RifleShooter Magazine editor Scott Rupp breaks down all the features of the Mossberg Patriot Predator rifle chambered in 6.5 PRC. An overall cartridge length of 1.815 inches with the Hornady 20-grain V-Max exceeds what the Ruger magazine is capable of handling, so those rounds had to be manually loaded directly into the chamber. Like those bullets, the Sierra 40- and 45-grain Hornets expand on varmints quite nicely, but since they do not have flat noses, no more than one should be loaded in the tubular magazine of a lever-action rifle. Jeff Bradley shows off the Modern Hunting Rifle (MHR) from Christensen Arms at SHOT Show 2023. Full-length sizing is fine if you want cartridges to headspace off the .17s rim, but that amount of sizing set the case shoulders back .005 inch, which can cause cases to split around the web after firing them a few times. Introduced in 2018, it is rugged, simple, and accurate. That put bullets 0.060 inch off the rifling, and while accuracy was not as good as with bullets touching the rifling, it was considerably better than with a longer jump. Starting and maximum charges vary slightly in the Hornady manual, but no more than to be expected from different lots of the same powders or slight differences in barrels, cases and bullets. When it comes to choosing a primer, it and the 17 Ackley Hornet can be finicky from rifle to rifle. Even the report of most .17-caliber guns is mild, particularly that of rimfire versions. CFE 223 was introduced in 2012, and CFE Pistol followed in 2014. I can say that IMR 8208 XBR is fast becoming my favorite powder. The Remington Model Seven is ready, willing and able to handle just about any task. Except for the CCI A17 load, all brands claim a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2525-2550 fps and in our chronograph testing actually delivered average MVs of 2550-2650 fps, depending on the load. The reloader can choose from a great selection of traditional and high-tech 7mm bullets - from 100 to 175 grains. The .17-caliber, 20-grain V-MAX (left) is not that much smaller than the .20-caliber, 32-grain V-MAX (center) and Hornadys .22-caliber, 40-grain V-MAX (right). Hornady loads its .17 Hornet Superformance Varmint cartridges with 20-grain V-MAX bullets and 15.5-grain NTX bullets, with a stated muzzle velocity of 3,650 fps for the V-MAX and 3,870 fps for the NTX. Up front, I expected more from this rifle. In the .17s I have worked with, the CCI BR-4 has given me the most consistent accuracybut your results may vary. With the 65, I recommend 47.5 grains of Varget or 47.5 grains of IMR 4064. In this cartridge, an overcharge of a fraction of a grain, particularly when working with near maximum loads, can produce excessive pressuresso a little extra care in this step is essential. Winchester created this load, and named it for what it wasswift. Of the powders CFE BLK, H-4198 and Accurate 2200 used with this bullet, H-4198 proved lackluster accuracy-wise, the best group only .87-inch at 4,226 with 17 grains of powder. Kimber's Hunter Pro Desolve Blak takes the firm's more affordable mountain rifle to new heights. Magazines are detachable, in both four-shot and seven-shot versions. After looking at load data for the 17 Mach IV and looking at Quickload, it seems something in the burn rate of IMR 4198, Vihta Vuori N110, Alliant 2400, Alliant Reloader 7, Hodgdon Lil'Gun, Alliant Blue Dot, and IMR 4227 would meet the requirement. Pat Mundy On the faster burning end of the usable spectrum, and with lighter bullets powders like H322 can deliver astonishingly high velocity with excellent accuracy. The .221 Fireball was created in 1959 as the initial chambering for Remington's new, unique, "space-age" XP-100 bolt-action pistol. Ackleys little cartridge, but loading CFE BLK is faster because it flows through a good powder measure with much greater uniformity in charge weight. The .17 RFB provides 300 to 400 feet per second (fps) velocity gains over the popular .17 Hornet. Chances are, if theyre a shooter, they have a .17-caliber rifle tucked away someplace. The .17 Remington requires consistent cleaning. Adding 5 grains of bullet weight slows the pace to 3,750 fps but results additional large-target reliability. Either powder is an excellent choice for P.O. The .17 Remington works with a wider variety of propellants than one may immediately think. Following are the Average Overall Group Size test results for the various .17 caliber rimfire rifles reviewed by Guns and Shooting Online (measured in inches). As much as I like LilGun in the 221 Fireball, I have to admit CFE BLK has pushed it to second place on my preference chart. The other top-sellers are the .17 Mach IV, .17 Rem., .17 Fireball and Hornadys .17 Hornet. Through the years I have handloaded for several lever-action rifles chambered for the 218 Bee, and recoil is so light I never found it necessary to crimp the mouth of the case into the bullet, so lack of a cannelure on the Sierra bullets is not a factor. I also wondered if this rifle just didnt like heavier slugs, so I decided to try some 25 grain Hornady V-MAX I had acquired after assembling initial loads in a component-shortage swap with a friend. Speaking of casesgood cartridge cases are available from a variety of sources, as is loaded ammunition. AVERAGE GROUP SIZE WITH MOST ACCURATE BRAND OF AMMUNITION. The trim die squeezes the neck down to .17 caliber, and its hardened surface allows squaring up the mouth of the case with a fine-tooth file. During May 2016, he thinned the Idaho rockchuck and ground squirrel populations with a custom pistol in 17 Hornet built around a single-shot Sako A1 action. While perusing the CFE BLK data I received from Hodgdon, I felt a bit disappointed by the absence of my favorite ground squirrel atomizer in that cartridge: the Berger 30-grain hollowpoint. Load data for caliber ".17 Rem." The .17 Remington is a short-length cartridge developed by the Remington Arms Company in 1971. Reloder 10x performed exceptionally, assembling .40- and .55-inch groups at 3,950 and 4,051 fps providing an excellent combination of accuracy and velocity. Brass is easily formed by running .221 RFB brass through .17 RFB full-length dies and trimming to 1.40 inches. The Nosler 20-grain bullet was happiest at 0.015 inch. Whereas the Redding Model No. The first one was chambered for the so-called .17 Pee Wee, which was simply the .30 Carbine cartridge necked down to .17, and the first rifle was built . Factory .223 Remington loads often provide good accuracy, but the cartridge is a great choice for handloaders who want to duplicate or even exceed factory ammunition ballistics. The CCI A17 load has a catalog MV of 2650 fps and chronographed between 2775 and 2809 fps from our test rifles. It attained the second highest velocities with 20-grain bullets and the highest velocities with 25-grain bullets. I began my shooting tests by using Barnes CR-10 solvent to ensure no copper fouling lurked in the barrels of the test guns. Dimensional differences between the two cases are so slight that load data for the two are interchangeable. Shooting reloads may void any warranty on your firearm. If looking to acquire an automated powder-charge dispensing unit to speed up precision reloading, don't judge the RCBS ChargeMaster Lite powder scale and dispenser by its name; the Little Green machine packs a heavy-weight punch with speed and accuracy. Good brushes, a good one-piece rod, a bore guide and a solvent at least equal to Shooters Choice are all smart investments. Using 17.5 grains of Reloder 10x produced a .21-inch group at 3,787 fps. The .17 Remington is a fun and interesting round to work with. Formed by necking down Remington's .221 Fireball case and increasing shoulder angle to 30 degrees, O'Brien claimed a velocity of 3,700 fps for a 25-grain bullet. The .17 Remington, on the other hand, is the darling of predator hunters protective over pelts. According to the story, OBrien wagered that his guide could not kill the bear with his rifle in .17 Mach IVand lost the bet. For the bigger animals such as predators, its very hard to beat a 25-grain hollow point. The 17 Hornet was given a S.A.A.M.I. Tested on 75 & 80 degree days with no pressure problems.. It's just a GREAT load for the 17 Remington.. CCI-450 Primers 26.0grs IMR 4007SCC My most accurate 222 rem. Accuracy of the two powders in my guns is about the same, but the new powder pushes 40- and 50-grain bullets faster at slightly lower chamber pressures. I later bought an OBrien rifle in .17 Mach IV, and after shooting it for about 10 years, I sold it to a collector. The 527s barrel is slender with a diameter of just over .5 inch at the muzzle. models. Chamfer and deburr the mouth of the case, run it through the full-length resizing die and the case is ready for fire forming with a reduced powder charge (I use a 20-grain bullet seated over 11.0 grains of H4198). Formed by necking down Remingtons .221 Fireball case and increasing shoulder angle to 30 degrees, OBrien claimed a velocity of 3,700 fps for a 25-grain bullet. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. Moving to bigger cartridges, when the Hornady 20-grain V-Max exits the .17 Rem. 1 Single-Shot Rifle: Tips to Improve Its Accuracy, How to Clean a Rifle Barrel the Effective and Harmless Way, 10 Best 6.5mm Rifle Cartridges Available Right Now, Top 10 6.5 PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge) Rifles, Kimber Hunter Pro Desolve Blak - A Lightweight Heavy Hitter, Browning BLR Lightweight '81 Stainless Takedown Lever Rifle, Mossberg Patriot Predator 6.5 PRC Rifle Review, Review: Springfield Armory M1A Loaded Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor, RCBS ChargeMaster Lite Review: Not 'Lite' on Ability, Remington Model Seven SS HS Bolt-Action Rifle Review. A note on cleaningsince this will be mentioned in any reloading manual or article about the caliber. I just spoke to a gent this past week on this subject. Perhaps you know someone who drives a Maserati, or a 1970s International pickup. I started my search for accuracy by seating the Nosler and Berger bullets so that they lightly kissed the rifling. This bullet would make the best choice for coyote-sized game, providing a touch more punch and less likelihood of breaking up before reaching vitals. High density is especially important when loading small-capacity cartridges. Using 18.5-, 19- and 19.5-grain charges of Ramshot X-Terminator produced .28-, .31- and .68-inch groups at 3,583, 3,687 and 3,809 fps, respectively, with a 1.81-inches OAL. The .17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire (.17 HMR) cartridge is based on a .22 WMR case necked down to accept .17 caliber bullets. The spring-loaded micrometer head allows for precise bullet seating depth. Bullets for the .17 Remington have come a long way since 1971, both in quality and variety. Drifts at 300 yards in a 10-mph cross breeze are 14 inches for the .17 Hornet versus 11 inches for the .223 Rem. Beyond that distance, the Swift was the clear winner at bucking wind and dropping whistle pigs in mid-munch. Up-and-comers in the .17 world are the recently introduced .17 WSM, which is the fastest rimfire-type seventeen in history and pushes a 20-grain bullet at 3,000 fps; and the .17 Hornet newly designed by Hornady (some term it the .17 Hornady Hornet to avoid confusing it with older, wildcat-type, necked-down versions of the .22 Hornet). The Hornady and Ackley versions of the 17 Hornet are examples. Remington factory ammo measures 1.810 inches in length and due to a fairly long chamber throat in the test rifle, the bullet is required to free-travel 0.183 inch prior to engaging the rifling. You won't be disappointed if you can find all the components. The .17 Fireball easily breaks 4,000 fps with 20-grain bullets and only 17 to 20 grains of powder. Fast follow-up shots are easy, virtue of low recoil, and savvy shooters can spot their own impacts through their scope. One of my handloads with 9.5 grains of LilGun gave the 20-grain V-MAX a speed of 3,500 fps. All Rights Reserved. A 50-grain V-Max exiting the muzzle of a rifle in .223 Rem. and the one you speak of is one of them. Possibly more germane, I was unable to clean the barrel as often as I would have liked during testing, my pull-through bore snake was too short to fish through the 26-inch barrel. I have, however, owned and handloaded for the common .17s and the focus of this article will be the first, and in many ways, the finestthe .17 Remington. Whereas CFE BLK proved to be an excellent choice for the two 17 Hornets, shot-to-shot velocity spread was quite high when it was asked to burn in the roomier case of the 17 Fireball. Kills are usually quick and clean, and the fur is usually perfect. Savage Impulse Big Game Straight-Pull Bolt-Action Rifle: Full Review, 7 Top .17 HMR (Hornady Magnum Rimfire) Rifles, .375 H&H Mag. at 4,300 fps and is zeroed two inches high at 100 yards, it is dead on the money at 300 yards. I dont know how Hodgdon fit 11.8. Wt. The original powder charge was then poured back in, and the factory bullet was seated to the original overall cartridge length of 1.712 inches. I have attempted to chamber Remington ammo in two .17 Mach IV rifles. In those days, a velocity of 2,000 fps was considered "fast," so this was really big news. Having a burn speed close to H4198 and IMR 4198 makes CFE BLK suitable for use in a variety of applications, including the .17- and .22-caliber varmint cartridges covered in this report. It's a "hot" round, pushing a 48-grain bullet at 4,100 fps. Unfortunately, it did not turn in a noteworthy group with this bullet. Cases are available from Nosler and Normaand they are quite goodthough a bit more heavily constructed than the original Remingtonsso the handloader must take this into consideration and work up loads carefully if using data that was developed in Remington cases. Hodgdon CFE BLK powder is in the series of CopperFouling Eraser propellants. My rifle is extremely accurate with the Hornady 40-grain V-Max and Nosler 40-grain Ballistic Tip, but it will not completely stabilize the 50-grain versions of those two bullets. Two calibers stand out among those of .17-diameter ilk, although others of newer design may outstrip them in the future. The .204 Ruger is essentially a .222 Remington Magnum case necked to accept .204-inch bullets, which results in 32- and 40-grain bullets being advertised at 4,225 fps . vs 9.3x62 Cartridge Clash, Browning SA-22 Challenge Semiauto Rimfire: Its History and a Review, 6 Best .300 PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge) Rifles, How Rifle-Shot Recoil Affects Scopes, Rings and Bases, Kimber Hunter Pro Desolve Blak - A Lightweight Heavy Hitter, Browning BLR Lightweight '81 Stainless Takedown Lever Rifle, Mossberg Patriot Predator 6.5 PRC Rifle Review, Review: Springfield Armory M1A Loaded Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor, RCBS ChargeMaster Lite Review: Not 'Lite' on Ability, Remington Model Seven SS HS Bolt-Action Rifle Review. But he became best known for the development of wildcat and improved cartridges bearing his name. Remington introduced it in 1971, and soon thereafter a friend of mine bought a Model 700 BDL chambered for it. The TaurusTX 22 Compact delivers class-leading reliability, capacity, and shootability in a 22 LR platform, and it's cut for a slide-mounted mini red dot. Patrick's top picks for loading the .17 Remington Fireball are Hodgdon's CFE BLK, Accurate's A-2200, Alliant's Reloder 10x and Western Powders' Ramshot X-Terminator. With the CZ sighted in 1.40 inches high at 100 yards, the bullets still hit an inch above aim at 200 yards. I have 200 pieces of brass and I'm ready to go, The Official Predator Masters Search Engine. barm # 13676946 03/21/19. Tips, techniques, and equipment are applied to these classroom discussions on how to become more proficient and successful at making long-range shots while hunting with AR-platform rifles. The Hornady .17 case, however, is a bit shorter in length and to the base of the shoulder than the Ackley case. Patrick. In its original configuration, it was a fine cartridge, though somewhat limited. The 20-grain Varmageddon by Nosler is a classic cup-and-core hollowpoint that provides a great option for high-volume, budget-conscious varmint shooters. For years, the powder in the .17 Rem. 17 MACH IV. A decrease in body taper gained back some of the capacity loss, but its gross water capacity is still about one grain less than for Ackleys version. In addition to stabilizing in a 1:16 twist, their thin jackets make them more effective on varmints than bullets of the same weight and even lighter that are constructed for cartridges of higher velocities. A number of the cartridges were Ackleys designs while the others had been sent to him by various other developers for inclusion in his two-volume Handbook For Shooters & Reloaders. The 20 grn Vmax had better accuracy and Mr. Nagels 20 grain pill was the most accurate. Reiber's load consisted of the Remington 6 primer, Hornady case, and Hornady 20-grain V-Max seated out to lightly engage the rifling. J. Scott Rupp takes a first look at the Springfield M1A Loaded rifle chambered in the popular 6.5 Creedmoor. leaves the others choking on its dust. This load shoots in all the .17 Remington's I've owned; at about 4040 fps', the advertised Remington velocity. The Sierra 40-grain BlitzKing delivered the smallest groups when seated out to lightly kiss the rifling, while the 50-grain BlitzKing preferred 0.005 inch of jump. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Berger set a terrific tone for .17 caliber bullets with a wide range of bulletsvariously producing bullets as light as 15 grains and as heavy as 37 grains (which require a very fast twist). CFE BLK shined, with 16 grains of powder producing a .45-inch group at 3,792 fps, and a maximum load of 17 grains printing .50 inch at 4,091 fps. at 3,400 fps and zeroed the same is down three inches at 100 yards. It shoots projectiles in the 17- to 20-grain range up to about 2,600 feet per second (fps). 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