Also the Fuel System #1 Status displays OL-FAULT. $), San Marino (USD Actually use it alot and let me tell you, it's quite awesome. I will add that it doesn't mean to just lower the rev limiter to 4k, I once had a customer do that. Diagnose Mass Air Flow Problems w/ VCM Scanner. Release the accelerator. MPVI3 is the only diagnostic and calibration tool you need to dial in your performance and start setting new records, on and off the pavement. $), Central African Republic (USD Top Answer. I'm kinda interested although it makes me nervous. Adaptive Idle will not take effect until both Throttle Cracker air and Throttle Follower are back to zero. 5095 I don't recomed drilling in a vehicle that has electronic throttle control. Paste as plain text instead, So you want the cracker & follower values to be zero right when the engine returns to idle, not after (as the stock calibration has it). $), Libya (USD TrackAddict enables drivers to capture their laps on and off the track through their Apple or Android smartphone as a free downloadable app. Endorsed by leading performance manufactures. $), Lesotho (USD These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. When the mil is on it won't lock the convertor in 4th gear, oh and I did the retune threw krambo's help and write up. I should have figured this however I didnt realize it would be this bad. Even when I cut the key off. $), Faroe Islands (USD The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. $), Kyrgyzstan (USD Anytime you change the engine, camshaft, timing chain, timing chain sprocket, cam sensor, crank sensor, or ECM you need to do a crank learn. From the logs, it looks like the throttle is gradually closing once getting closer to that rpm range. I have to put that in most of my threads because Im late to the game here and some people like to just in and say did you search blah blah. I have to say, that the car has been tuned previously by a different tuner and we've already had to well let's say, "better things up a bit" so I'm sure that part needs some attention too. This shit is so annoying and I think its getting worse. $), Djibouti (USD Anyways, the percentage relation between the FPS and the TPS is somewhat out of wack (see attachment). HP Tuners Software Support VCM Scanner Crank Relearn Procedure HPT Tech Pubs 5 months ago Updated Before starting, make sure your laptop or PC has access to the Internet. 1. Make sure that your Idle Spark Advance table (both In Drive and In Park) match your High and Low Octane Table for all columns up to 1200rpm (HPT > Engine > Spark Control > Spark Advance > Idle Spark Advance (in Park, in Gear), Hi and Lo Octane). Run the engine until it reaches normal operating temperature. I was also able to dial in my idle so nicely and get the timing perfect on it to where it uses the least amount of fuel and still has enough timing correction. Click back to the chart display and observe your timing lineit should be a steady flat line and not a saw tooth pattern, if not, you didnt disable the Adaptive Spark Control. $), Namibia (USD You may need to fine hand adjust your Base Running Airflow table to achieve tighter results (keep in mind your LTIT are disabled so you will not see a value yet). Misfires. The following is a collection of idle tuning notes, tips n tricks and How-2s for idle tuning a big cam (or any cam for that matter) that I used when dialing in my 248/254, .615"/.622", 112 LSA using HP Tuners. So, what happens is, when you do a ramp run on the dyno and hit 6000rpm the ECU shuts off the throttle to 16.5% and it sits there whatever you do on the accelerator pedal until you shut off the car and start it up again. $), Palestinian Territories (USD $), Congo - Kinshasa (USD Get your SxS or Sea-Doo performing its best with MPVI3 and VCM Suite. Relearn Procedure for Models WITH PUSH-BUTTON IGNITION. $), Guernsey (USD Disable DTC codes P0131 and P0151 by setting the code to 3- no error reported and be sure to have the SES box checked. Out of these cookies, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. $), Liberia (USD Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. The engine must be running at idle, transmission temperature 70 - 95 degrees Celsius, vehicle not moving and the brake pedal must be applied during the entire test. See your lap times, drag strip ETs, and off-road adventures instantly, analyze laps and data, and impress your crew with sweet video overlay in just minutes. After 30 seconds, turn the Key back off. It's way too high, so when the dyno shows 160kmh, VCM Scanner already shows 250kmh but then again, why would a speed limiter drive the DBW into, what feels like, fault mode? In your scan, look at the timing line in the chart viewdoes it bounce high and low or does it remain relatively stable (+/- 2*)? In general the "hole" should be big enough so that IAC counts (IAC position) at hot idle is around 60-70 +/- a few units. Raise this by 0.5AFR and listen to idle quality. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Its possible to brick your computer any time you flash it. $), Christmas Island (USD You can see the pattern of the logged numbers so just interpolate the values you didnt hit, I did it linear and I never plan to run my engine in the cells it didnt hit anyway. Attachments may only be downloaded by paid Gold members. Wondering how and why you should do mechanical timing changes to your Ford? $), Israel (USD $), Poland (USD Goat Rope Garage 80.1K subscribers Join Subscribe 223 Share Save 9.4K views 3 years ago Support Those Who Support The Garage. Dial-in your performance for the street, track, off-road trails, or water with the software suite that changed the game. YouTube saw it first. Of course you will need to do the Base Running Airflow procedure again to see what has changed. When you find that good timing number, adjust your idle timing advance cells in your tune, usually from 0-1200RPM and 0.08 0.28 g/cyl (rememberdo all the timing tables: Idles and Mains! $), Mayotte (USD if stock setting is 10, go to 9 and try it, and so on) but do not go lower than 2.5%. $), Ethiopia (USD This also happens on the street, not just the dyno and of course in about every gear you try that. When my cam was do I had to have a relearn done. HP Tuners GM Gen III Training Part 29: Cable Throttle Idle Tuning walks you through how to properly tune with a cable throttle body based LS application. How do I do a TPS reset or relearn? $), Mexico (USD Spark advance fine tuning - Use the VCM controls when idling to adjust the timing until you see good MAP (more vacuum). $), Tonga (USD Then press the accelerator on the floor for 15 seconds. $), Hong Kong SAR (USD $), Belize (USD $), Western Sahara (USD The Cruise Control feeling is also a product of too much Base Running Airflow however since that table should now be dialed in, more than likely your Throttle Cracker Airflow table is to blame. I figured I had the choice of going full on Speed Density or do a Hybrid Open Loop approach. $), Colombia (USD $), Qatar (USD We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. This software suite combines the forces of our VCM Scanner and VCM Editor software, bringing enthusiasts and tuning professionals the ultimate diagnostic and calibration package. $), Greece (USD Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. $), Samoa (USD The authorized use of such tools is to bring a motor vehicle into emissions compliance and/or to maintain emissions compliance, as well as for use on competition/racing and other exempted vehicles. Put the MAX Adaptive Idle Airflow values you zerod out previously back to stock (4.50g/sec) and put the Min values to -0.5 g/sec or less. $), Japan (USD Sale ends todayGet 30% off any course (excluding packages). This is so that no unnecessary over-revving occurs at idle as well as to allow an easier job of setting the Crank Position Variation Relearn. Max temp -- leave it alone, I run mine at 220*. $), Senegal (USD Does anyone see a "reset TPMS" prompt anywhere in the menus/sub menus? $), Netherlands (USD November 28, 2008 in PCM Tuning. $), Angola (USD More than likely, if you do this procedure in the summer, your truck will let you know something is not right when winter comes along. This is great information! After refusing to believe just the overlap and the headers would cause this bad of a false lean condition (and subsequent maxed + fuel trims), I confirmed I had no air/exhaust leaks. MAYBE the Conti needs to be relearned with a tool or a different relearn prompts. I would say, that using this procedure, 99% of you will be in good shape. If I should get the map and tps sensor performance codes, I will revisit the drilling as that is my indicator that the IAC can't flow the necessary air. (HPT > Engine > Fuel Control > OL/CL > Open Loop > Eq Ratio). Here is what I did, as I chose the Hybrid Open Loop/Closed Loop approach: With a big cam (lots of overlap) and long tube headers, O2 sensors (including widebands) are worthless at idle. I have a stock throttle body and stock intake. There is no crank relearn just need a return. $), Azerbaijan (USD Also I check the DTC list in hp tuners for my truck p1336 is not listed. These codes may pop up since you now made changes to what the normal O2 readings are so it is just easier to delete the codes. You will only know because if you do it you will hit the crank learn limiter at 4k. $), United States (USD Software Support. i haven't even messed with any of the new releases. $), Martinique (USD great news, what did it make in the end up? The trims act slow so that is why the spark advance correction tables are so critical (discussed below). Password. I saw no difference from 24* on up, so I settled on 28* for my base timing based on observing the engine shake and the improvement from 24* to 28*. $), Eritrea (USD I got to use this some more last night. Join our newsletter for exclusive FREE content including $), Trinidad & Tobago (USD You just have to make sure you do it right, exactly like the instructions that pop up when you choose your OS. From the Factory Service Manual: 5.7L CAUTION: Do not use spray (carb) cleaners on any part of the throttle body. and I spent about 10 hour's tunning on Sunday. We're going to try to put on factory cai and throttle body. Its still doing it. Head back into the car and turn the KOEO, connect your scanner. When doing the job on HPT it won't tell you if you were successful. 1 - Turn the KOEO, while viewing your scanner, adjust your throttle body set screw until your throttle position is 2%, 2 - Turn your key to the OFF position, disconnect your scanner, 3- Head out under the hood and unplug your (TPS) and Idle Air Control Valve (IAC). Listen to your engine for idle quality as well. Say hello to the latest generation OBDII interface by HPTuners. Again as mentioned before, be sure to copy and paste in the correct cells. Press,and hold, the S TART button until a chime sounds. Seems like sometimes if I flash it twice it may not do it. Keep in mind that positive fuel trims are dumped on top of your Power Enrichment at WOT as well and I certainly didnt want all that extra fuel at WOT. 2: Disable the SES lights for MAF codes P0101, P0102, P0103 (No check engine light.) $), Vietnam (USD $), Nicaragua (USD We explore getting the idle steps in the correct range, tps relearn, programming the idle effective area table, and setting up the VCM scanner to have proper idle tuning histograms. $), St. Pierre & Miquelon (USD But things are getting better although Im still having a .4% anomaly. $), Niger (USD you will see it there and it will tell you what to do. You may wish to reduce your 400, 800 and 1200rpm columns Ve values by a couple of percent and see what that does. $), China (USD How do I go about logging my STIT & LTIT in the HP tuners scanner? Upload or insert images from URL. Want better coverage of your track days and off-road adventures? $), Jersey (USD $), Cambodia (USD To those that have the software and can follow, PLEASE ADD YOUR EXPERIENCES, so this thread can be utilized for all the do-it-yourself tuners. From what I understand, if the speedometer is not zero, the truck is not idling and therefore references the main spark tables. $), Cayman Islands (USD $), Czechia (USD LOL Thats a really nice write.. $), British Indian Ocean Territory (USD Just saying. No coupon needed. $), Romania (USD $), Yemen (USD This is optional however did help me out for off idle transitions: Set Closed loop proportional O2 error to (left to right): 0.06250 0.06250 0.06250 0.06250 0.06250 0.06250 0.06250 0.15479 0.18750 0.21484 0.24023 0.27002 0.27979. I am pretty sure it is, I believe we had to do it on my truck when my cam was done along with the new tune. Is it possible to do a TPS relearn or reset with HPtuners? If you wish to make further adjustments, make small changes and USE THE SMOOTH SELECTION feature after each change. $), Isle of Man (USD This should assist in getting the car started and idling smooth every time now. kevin have you found any ways around the evap solenoid? S10forum is the community to discuss the S-Series, Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon. $), Mongolia (USD $), Greenland (USD For example, 14.7/16.3=0.9. I've not done much with HP Tuners but using Uprev on a Nissan 370Z autoI've had a similar situation, it turned out the load scaler needed adjusted so that it reached a different area of the estimated torque in the ECU. While you have your file open, set your Min temp for adaptive idle to an appropriate temperature (HPT > Engine > Idle > Idle RPM > Adaptive Idle RPM Min ECT). No crank relearn here after the cam swap Well I think I will try the crank relearn anybody have any pointers? $), Chile (USD Then turn the key back on clear the codes and the tps is reset to 0. this car has a previous history with the same issue. $), Georgia (USD $), Bahamas (USD The TPS PID actually represents TPS voltage as a percentage of 5.0 volts so at WOT the voltage ends up around 88% of 5.0 volts. $), Morocco (USD always speed density.) Alright, you have your new cam installed, degreed and ready to fire. $), St. Martin (USD Afghanistan (USD We can scan the Conti sensor as a 21 and newer or 22 Jeep JL and it will scan. $), Norfolk Island (USD When I go to crank it back up, it never goes to 0%. LS1GTO.com is a forum community dedicated to the LS1 Pontiac GTO. If you choose to follow any of these How-2s, please do so at your own risk and do one change at a timein other words, I am not responsible if you blow it up or damage your engine. $), Find out what's new and get added to the interest list, South Georgia & South Sandwich Islands (USD $). $), Cape Verde (USD Show off more of the action with picture-in-picture video, 360 video, and 4K Ultra HD. If fact, I ended up deleting the P0300 code as it was a nuisance. Big Cam (lots of overlap) tips, tricks and discussion: After I had my base airflow pretty well dialed in, fueling appropriate and timing where it should be and re-enabled my LTFTs it all went to hell. $), Tokelau (USD A range of dates and times are available. Set Pe enable to a value lower than what you see at idle (look at your previous idle scans), I set mine to 50kPa and see 75-76kPa at idle (HPT > Engine > Fuel Control > Power Enrichment > Power Enrichment Pe Enable tables). Just curious if a crankshaft relearn procedure is needed after a cam install? 6 Your scanner should now read 0-0.8% range even though you added that 2% opening to it. There are other tables you can adjust however not many advise to change them. Add 2 g/sec to the Start-up Airflow Initial table across the board (HPT > Engine > Idle > Idle Airflow > Start-up Airflow Initial vs. ECT). Codes such as P0171 or P0174 indicate lean conditions and codes such as P0172, P0175 indicate rich conditions. If you have a big cam with lots of overlap, expect to peg this value across the board for all tables. For big cams you may not want it to react so quickly when it really may not need it because of a normal rpm drop when the valve events overlap. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. Flash this new tune with all of the updates into your truck. Truck p1336 is not listed it you will only know because if you do it you will be good! 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