The old, art commerce divide where people go, oh, its too commercial. The other thing, I was just talking to somebody who was watching a live Tom Petty concert on a computer, no between-song banter. I had to remind myself that I was full-grown man. The eleven-year-old who first heard Breakdown was always close. University - Staff Department: Chemistry Position: Science & Engineering Assoc (650) 725-0245 (office) Additional Info . I didnt need to be that way. They were laughing their asses off, says Lynch. Stan Lynch by Patrick Berkery When Tom Petty was asked to describe original Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch in the 2005 book Conversations With Tom Petty, the bandleader responded with, "Stan. There was a lot of miscommunication and many immature sh*ts going down. MD: And it was Don Henley who helped you on that path, right? They get busy trying to control the story. It was an exhilarating ride, but there were frequent creative and personal tensions between Petty and the outspoken drummer that eventually led to Lynch's departure from the band after 19 years. And I thought, Okay well, youre being paid like its main gig. I had a feeling that the dough was the only reason he hadnt walked off yet.. Other guys, it looks like they went to business school to be rock stars. And he said, This is really good. He sounded just like Tom Petty when he said it. Not all artists understand that. Huh? That's all it was about for me. MD: The Heartbreakers worked with a unique mix of producers over the years. Print Profile Email Profile View Stanford-only Profile Tab Menu . I'd be in a band with him tonight if he'd let me. But we had a quiet moment at the rehearsals. It was almost like in Men In Black. We played with X, we played with Gun Club, but we never stopped loving Tom Petty, Zanes said. It was just, it was never that harsh to me! So you never bought into the whole idea that rock'n'roll is just for rebellious kids?No, it wasn't a personal rebellion for meit was a joy and also a way for me to draw attention to myself [laughter], which was what I always wanted to do. I didnt want to find out anything that would compromise the mans dignity, Zanes said. My ride is like, I want to be around the best, coolest musicians that will have me! But it's wonderful to be in a band, if I have to leave somebody with a thought: it's wonderful to be in a band, even if it's just for a short period of time. Thats kind of the Heartbreakers code. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement and Your California Privacy Rights. He could have handled things better, and his mistakes were mainly related to miscommunication and immaturity. And I wonder if you have any idea what the core values are that have helped you to stay sane, and also to grow as a person as you've gotten older and avoid becoming stagnant or bitter.Well I have those days.stagnant and bitter, that would describe several weeks of the year. So he tells me hes taking me to a Bob Marley & The Wailers gig, and he flips me the keys to his Ferrari. How bizarre! Again, in his own way. The angst actuallywhat draws most people in drives me away. I've been extremely curious about what's gonna happen if? I'm Bihter. I have a proposition for you, said Campbell, who was on the verge of kicking off his first-ever solo tour, but was going to be without regular drummer Matt Laug for a period in the spring and summer when he had commitments in Europe with Italian superstar Vasco Rossi. You don't need to try so hard - boy, you wasted a lot of energy trying to be loved by everybody, and the bottom line is that wasn't what was important. Stan Lynch Since 1977, the world's most widely read drum magazine: in print, online, and the Modern Drummer app. It really came out very intense, at times remorseful, at times angry but he helped the book immeasurably. When I hear that old shit on the radio I can't believe that it's part of the musical vernacular, that it's been accepted for so long as real. He didnt ever get a trampoline out and do a backflip. But most musicians have no hobbies. Ok, here's another attempt to post my Stan Lynch interview. He basically has no connection to that family back in Florida. Call somebody you respect. When I heard from Mike, I almost said, Thats probably not a good fit, but I appreciate the offer. You have left the Del Fuegos. "Oh! I dont know how thats going to feel. I wont get into all that, but we were young and stupid and full of too much testosterone. You learn them. Is it better to take time off, or work through it until it comes back, or?Call a friend. And I said "Hey man, it must be fun working with so-and-so", and he goes, "Yeah, thank God I sold a shitload of records 'cause now I can hang around and make records till the money runs out!" Heres the important point. With $100 in his pocket, Stan Lynch drove his dad's VW bus from Florida across country to L.A. in 1974. As Petty embarked on his next solo effort, Wildflowers, he knew that it wouldn't be a good idea to let Lynch play on the record, drafting session musician Steve Ferrone for most of the tracks.Though Petty was content to play most of the record without Lynch, his label insisted on having a greatest-hits record led to the original Heartbreakers reuniting for the song 'Mary Jane's Last . [laughs] Like, to this day, 20-something years later. And when the set lists and all that stuff went away, I was really lost. Man, we used to have a joke in the first band I was in, which was: lower your goals and succeed! I just didn't know any better, I didn't know it turned into a corporate frenzy and we were being sponsored by Levi's! Guitar Saved Me!: Jeff Beck Looks Back in Never-Before-Heard Interview Audio Lynch talked to Zanes for two days straight about his long years of having to prove that he was the right drummer. I'm not on Mount Rushmore and I don't think I should be! Ive thought about having different singers up there doing the songs, but why? And I'm going [excitedly], "We're making 300 a week!" I wouldnt want to let anyone down, says Lynch. My cat could have a record deal! It wouldn't sound the same if it wasn't Keith Moon playing the drums.Oh absolutely, but at the same time, it's Pete Townshend protecting his idea. And yelling and protesting. I don't get the angst. We're a rock band! We both started smiling at one point and went, We got something here. You first encounter Petty as a fan and then, youre in this rock band, the Del Fuegos, and opening up for these guys. So I think that sorta nailed it on the head, I heard that and I never forgot it. There are things I could have handled better, specifically with Mike. I didnt even speak to him at the Hall of Fame, says Lynch. One day, Pettys manager, Tony Dimitriades, called Zanes out of the blue and said that Tom had read Dusty in Memphis and wanted to have dinner the next time Warren was in L.A. For Zanes, who had a new baby at home in Cleveland, It was all I could do not to leave right then. When they did meet, Petty said that the Dusty book had inspired a song, and that he wanted Zanes to come to his house to hear it. Stan Lynch is really an overlooked player in rock. Below Deck Sailing Yachts Daisy Kelliher Is the Best Chief Stew. Someones passing a joint through the balcony and Denny says, Thats what a feel is. He was just being helpful in his very 70s way. "The coolest thing about this is that I get to put a bookend on a really, really long book of life," says Stan Lynch, second from left, of reuniting with Mike Campbell, third from left. We didn't know any of these things! When original Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch was let go from the group in 1995 or excommunicated, to use his own term he started a new chapter of his life in Florida as a producer-songwriter and rarely looked back. It's funny, you know, working in a band is a chop; it's just another chop. But I don't know why other people really get burned by it, it really hurts them. That's that old story, by the time you figure that out, they're on to something else anyway. Years later, Petty, fascinated by the Dusty Springfield book Zanes wrote, invited him to dinner and rekindled their friendship. And - no, I shouldn't! Id never learned anyone elses parts., He started going over the material at his home studio, and he turned to longtime drummer buddies Kenny Aronoff and Gregg Bissonette for advice. You can actually remain on the pedestal that youve earned as an artist. Mike Campbell and Stan Lynch on Their Surprise Heartbreakers Reunion, Watch Bob Dylan Play Not Fade Away as His Grateful Dead Tribute Week in Japan Continues, Inside One Bands Absurd, Infuriating Legal Nightmare, Hear Bob Dylan Break Out The Grateful Deads Truckin at Tokyo Concert, Toosii Brings Roses and Your 'Favorite Song' to Tonight Show, Justin Bieber Shares Heartfelt Message to Frank Ocean After Coachella Set, Bad Bunny Sets the Record Straight on Harry Styles Coachella Tweet, J-Hope Shares Buzzcut, Special Message for Fans Ahead of MilitaryEnlistment, Ankle Injury Messed Up Frank Ocean's Coachella Set, Source Claims. Stanley Joseph "Stan" Lynch (born May 21, 1955) is an American musician, songwriter and record producer. But it got untenable. A lot of people in this business seem to forget why they wanted to be there in the first place, their values really change a lot. I found out hes turned out to be quite a gentleman and a real brother to me., It also turned out they needed a lot less time than they anticipated to lock back in musically. We have a freedom to walk down the street and meet people. The list goes on, but this'll get you started! And there was always great coffee. Confirmed guests include Jim Keltner, JR Robinson, Rick Marotta, Stan Lynch, Gregg Bissonette, Lenny Castro, Luis Conte, David Garfield, Rich Mangicaro, Ross Garfield (aka Drum Doctor), Harry McCarthy . Tom Petty and the Heartbreakershad been off the road for nearly a year when the 1994 Bridge School Benefit came around. Born. It's really nothing to have a record deal now, it doesn't mean anything. I know Im not a great singer, but I can get the point across, he says. ), Drummer Talk 271 Agents and Managers 301, Recycled Percussion to perform in Super Bowl Pre-Show, Semisonic Drummer Slips on Ice, Breaks Hand. (The Del Fuegos lasted for one more album before disbanding; Dan Zanes went on to be a fixture on the childrens-music scene.) I was pleased to see that was still there. Out came Petty, walking his walk, carrying the manuscript. Combine that with a finely honed sense of dynamics, a big signature tone featuring huge toms and in-your-face snare, and an uncanny attentiveness to every moment of a performance, and you may as well have custom designed the ideal rock drummer. He didnt like the record. If I ran a record label, probably one of the first things I'd do is drop half the roster. But they're in it for a different ride. It never felt that strange. But sometimes it's tough; it's not a democracy. I imagine it's him saying, "You know, I'm only gonna put the best shit on my songI don't want one of these to die; they're hard to come by.". Tons of them. Moral dilemmas, relationships, parenting and more. There sat the fantastic coffee. But the fact that these guys hung out with me for so fuckin' long is like - oh my God! I thought we were going out there to draw blood! [laughs] You know, but back in the day - here we go, Grandpa Shitpants speaks - in 1970, to have a record deal meant something, that was a discriminator: "Well I have a band" "No wait, I have a band and we're signed!" Then Covid Trapped Them There. It has a special vibe when its just the two of you. And so we started closing the show with it. Petty spent the downtime recording his solo album Wildflowers with producer Rick Rubin and every member of the Heartbreakers besides Stan Lynch, a decision that did not sit well with the drummer. . The musician revealed that he wishes he had handled the situation in the band in a more proper way regarding his departure. Because the problem is when you're young, it's make or break. It wasn't that I was gonna be a professor or a model or a car driver or a brilliant architect. Over and over and over and over and over. Sometimes I would hear stuff and it was just so sad. It must be tougher to hang onto the premise of artistic integrity in that situation.Well, conversely, it's a thrill to know that you've had some success. In what ways do you think that the business is easier, and in what ways do you think it's harder for artists starting out now than it was when you started?Well it's easier because it's an accepted form of livelihood. So of course he's gonna stick his head up from behind the car with a court jester's hat on and missing teeth. So I think a smart band leader has gotta be a good casting agent and a benevolent dictator. Oh, my my, oh, hell yes, did Lynch serve those songs well. I just couldnt look at it. How deep into your hole of shit do you need to go? Because theyre so good. I felt like all of the uniforms and emotional and metaphysical stuff about being a drummer, Id sort of outgrown. And I want to contribute whatever they'll let me contribute, and I want to learn what they'll let me learn. Now which one is it? So I think that if you're flat, if you've hit a point where you just don't know where the hell to turn, that's usually somebody's way of saying, "Man, you need a bro.". Id hear that he was auditioning for another group. That extends to interviews. 2023 Cond Nast. And hes just kind of patting this thing and Im thinking, This could go any one of ten thousand ways. Songwriter, musician. Just don't let too much time go by before you do something or it could be too late. He was the original drummer for Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers for 18 years until his departure in 1994. The Del Fuegos were originally an Oberlin band that Dan Zanes, Warrens older brother, started with some college friends; Warren joined after Andover. Drummer Talk 273 So you want to MD! And what it basically translated to was, "Fuckin' have some fun with this, wouldya?". So I think that a lot of people made their best work when they were hungry 'cause they had to. At 45, Stan Lynch appears to be comfortably making the transition from archetypal wild rock drummer to trusted elder statesman - all the while retaining the same enthusiasm that made him stand out as a drummer, showing a keen interest in helping young artists through the struggles of building a career. Sep 18, 2019 #32 John DeChristopher DFO Veteran. So Denny, in that perfect English accent, he blows a big cloud of smoke and says, Stan, if you leave all that shit behind and just play the groove, theyll always misinterpret you as tasteful. That was brilliant. He is from OH. Tom Petersson from Cheap Trick - didn't hurt him! To me, it was like, "Who gives a fuck? Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Just listened to an interview with Jimmy Iovine on the Howard Stern Show last year. USA. 'Cause I want to sign bands that are legitimately talented. Dan Baird and Stan Lynch Team Up for New LP: Interview Matt Wardlaw Published: July 16, 2020 The Chefs Don't let the name of the new project by ex- Georgia Satellites frontman Dan Baird and. That was probably cut more around the time of Greatest Hits in 1993, but it fits in. Stan: He taught me a lot, sometimes in very abstract ways. Pettys also addicted, and he gets to work his way out of his. This was unsettling for everyone in the group besides Campbell, who worked extensively on the album, but Lynch voiced his objections the loudest. Be it ever so humble, my past with Tom and the band, I never take it for granted. Basically, youre witnessing the birth of the Traveling Wilburys. It's very incredible. I felt like, perhaps, Id made all the noise I could. This is the birth of the Wilburys. But a lot of that has calmed down. He referred to my old band as the Del Tacos. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers play 'Learning To Fly' at drummer Stan Lynch's final gig, Flashback: Tom Pettys Last Dance With Drummer Stan Lynch, Watch Bob Dylan Play Not Fade Away as His Grateful Dead Tribute Week in Japan Continues, Inside One Bands Absurd, Infuriating Legal Nightmare, Hear Bob Dylan Break Out The Grateful Deads Truckin at Tokyo Concert, Toosii Brings Roses and Your 'Favorite Song' to Tonight Show, Justin Bieber Shares Heartfelt Message to Frank Ocean After Coachella Set, Bad Bunny Sets the Record Straight on Harry Styles Coachella Tweet, J-Hope Shares Buzzcut, Special Message for Fans Ahead of MilitaryEnlistment, Ankle Injury Messed Up Frank Ocean's Coachella Set, Source Claims. Stan Lynch, the band's longtime drummer, who eventually quit in 1994, is unsurprisingly the most critical of Petty. All I know is that I have very selective memory about the whole experience, very positive. I didn't know; I was so unsophisticated. Cohasset, Mass. When he gets married, its the same thing. Come and get it!" [laughs], But I'll bet you're glad you stayed that way.I think it's the only wayto thine own self be true [laughs]. I didnt know whether to say, Thank you or Fuck you. I only knew I was grateful to have had the experience of having all those men in my life. He didnt want it to be authorized because he felt like authorized meant bull-, says Warren Zanes, whose Petty: The Biography arrives next month. And I'd probably fire 90% of the A&R staff for hiring them. Its like a part of my life Ive actuallyI wont say forgotten, because I actually still dream about it. But a lot of people think the same thing and it doesn't happen for them.Oh no, no. I'm not overly celebrated; I feel like I was given just the right amount of notoriety that I could handle. Despite those undercurrents or perhaps partly because of them, the partnership often served as a perfect vehicle for Lynch's talents. He said, I want it to be yours. Saying, These are the things that feel incredibly good, that cant be duplicated. The entire band was displeased by those decisions, but Stan was the most vocal. Other cats, you never get to them one way or another, they never go high and they never go low. Now, everybody has a CD. Rolling Stone is a part of Penske Media Corporation. When hes telling the story about how his father beat the shit out of him at age five, its hard not to feel something., I cant pretend to know everything that was going through his mind in telling me these things, Zanes added. Stan Lynch was the original drummer for The Heartbreakers. And I interpret that in any way I can: that means spiritually, financially, they know the rudiments, they know their scalesthey've done their homework! Among his more pointed criticisms concern the song Stop Draggin My Heart Around, which Petty did with Stevie Nicks. We had recorded some of the songs with Stan (Lynch, the Heartbreakers' drummer through the mid-'90s) at Mike (Campbell)'s house. But Petty was always just the right fit, for me, my brother, my sister and my mother. I love that record as much and in some cases more than any of the classic Heartbreakers albums. Now, I have friends that are in their 20's and 30's, and they've already been to business school and they've been to music college andyou can actually select rock star and supermodel on your job application [laughter]. Original Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch recently joined an interview with Rolling Stone. There are so many records out there now that it's harder to stand out.Yeah, right, it's like, everybody's super-talented and everybody's a genius and everybody's signed, and I don't care! That is the fuckin' ride. You keep this band together. When he gets into a rock band, thats like the second chance to have a family. Thats a hard thing to arrive at. It's usually somebody that has the seed of an idea that he's gonna protect. In a world of headlines, this is going to be a big one. 82.4 KB Views: 214. I can't worry about that - it would be so pathetic! Merrill Lynch CEO Stan O'Neal, shown in a 2003 file photo, is a numbers person in what is, at its heart, a people business. I had to forget all that. Now theres a book in itself.. Now what? Location. Video unavailable John needs Paul. The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame drummer-turned-successful songwriter/producer (for Don Henley, The Eagles, The Mavericks, Ringo Starr, and Tim McGraw, among others) and tree farmer (a gig he describes as part Zen, part holding on for dear life, and not unlike playing with Bob Dylan) is an opinionated, intelligent guy who doesnt mince words or sugarcoat memories. He wrote songs, they recorded those songs, they put a record together with artwork, they released it, and they went out on the road to support it. [1] Early years [ edit] Lynch was born in Cincinnati, [2] Ohio, U.S., and moved to Gainesville, Florida, in the early 1960s. What do you think are the biggest pitfalls on the road to success, and after you become successful?The biggest pitfalls on the way to success: disillusionment and panic when you're so close. . This is the first time Im talking about it in any depth.. That may be. He had had encounters with people who did heroin, and he hit a point in his life when he did not know what to do with the pain he was feeling. Stephen Lynch Science & Engineering Assoc, Chemistry. Its felt really nice to get my friend back., They finally met up a few months ago at Campbells Los Angeles home studio he calls Knobville. It's not a weenie thing to do at all. The drummer realized after some point that he didnt want to be in the band anymore due to the personal and musical differences he had with Tom Petty. I interviewed Stan for Vintage Drums Magazine (a now defunct British publication) in 2018 and we got deep into his gear for Damn The Torpedoes. Lynch contributed to the bands first eight albums, and he served as the bands original drummer for two decades until he decided to leave in 1994. The Petty Archives is not in any way knowingly affiliated, associated, or endorsed by the Tom Petty estate, any of the Heartbreakers, and/or any of their current or previous management. If you still have to prove something to others other than yourself. We got together and played at that and talked and were friendly, Petty said in 2007. I keep going back to this band and I cant help but feel like the reason the Heartbreakers wont die, cant die, is because Pettys family was so dysfunctional. Tensions were thick backstage at the Bridge School Benefit, but the Heartbreakers still delivered an incredibly moving acoustic set featuring You Dont Know How It Feels, I Wont Back Down, Free Fallin' and, appropriately enough, Time To Move On. Heres a gorgeous rendition of Learning To Fly. Nobody knew it at the time, but it was Lynchs final gig with the band. As a drummer, he's all about paradox and contrast: an irresistible blending of Charlie Watts' solid understatement with John Bonham's raw go-for-the-throat power, either of which might turn and rear its head within a single verse. Stan and I had some personal conflicts with family here and there, he says. having this conversation," he said in a 2003 interview with Newsweek. But other times I've been in a room where you just strike an E chord and the guy starts singing. Percussion group Recycled Percussion has a unique, In the early hours of Friday, January 13, Dave had his, LA Weekly just released an article detailing Gadd and, 2 sold-out Twin Cities shows have been called off, Jazz and fusion drummer Alphonse Mouzon died on Sunday. The Heartbreakers are hardly a case study in intolerance. And he was dissing Stan Lynch for being behind the beat. During a three-night stint at the Roxy in L.A., in the mid- eighties, Petty got in touch and invited the group to his place in Encino. Paper, rock, scissors!". The interview was conducted by Jeff Sims, guitarist of the Dixie Desperados and lifelong friend of Lynch's. Lynch and Sims attended Westwood Middle School in the 1960s and would play music. So it helps you to get your own inspiration back to be able to really learn to listen to somebody else.Yeah, because usually musicians don't listen, they just critique. I think I have some Tom nuances in my voice. Now there's a book in itself." Any book about the fifty-two-year-old Lynch would surely be an entertaining, fairly hilarious read. Lynch reflecting on his time in Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers: There were many things that were not said that should have been said. His only encounter with Petty in the years that followed took place in 2002 at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, and the only communication he can recall from guitarist Mike Campbell in the two decades since that night was a brief phone call in 2017 shortly after Petty died. Warren became vice-president of educational programs for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. When we got back together for the Bridge School Benefit it was just misery. It works really well with him. Very cool @DanRH. Completely separate from all that, of course, is the fact that Stan Lynch really is an extremely great drummer. It was the greatest thrill of my life, Zanes said. Given just the two of you take it for granted fire 90 % of the Traveling Wilburys remind that... 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